Why I Do Not Film in Michigan

I have never recommended a producer film in Michigan, even in its heyday. Their film tax credit program has had problems on every level, from its inception.

[Read More]

UK Film Finance Mag Interview

by Jeff Steele

Recently, I was interviewed by Kingsley Marshall, contributor to Big Screen, Film International, Little White Lies, and Shook, for a story on film finance.

Do you find this Q&A interesting? What additional information would you like to know about?

Here is the Q&A from this article not yet out:

Kingsley Marshall: How hard is it to find movie financing in 2010?

JEFF STEELE: It’s very, very tough out there for single-picture, indie films. There are about six entertainment banks left that are actively lending, down from 12 in 2008, and only a handful of gap funds, down from a zillion in 2008. Wall Street equity, like hedge funds, has pretty much abandoned the single-picture finance business as well, but is still present in slate financing structures.  And yet, films are still getting made.

Kingsley Marshall: How much is the credit crunch to blame?

JEFF STEELE: The credit crunch definitely played a key part in the production freeze in 2009, where the streets of Cannes and Toronto were paved with dead deals.  2010’s glut has to do more with (1) the plethora of bad film deals that were made during the go-go years of 2005-2008 that have barely recouped this budgets, (2) high net worth individuals not having the disposable income they once had (or thought they had), and (3) the lack of U.S. distributors (and P&A) available to the indie market.  The credit crunch is definitely having a direct impact on the ability of foreign buyers and distributors to finance pre-sales and pre-sales deposits, which are critical elements in indie film financing.

Kingsley Marshall: Who/what has stepped into the vacuum left by the exit of banks and Wall Street from movie financing?

JEFF STEELE: I’m seeing new equity coming back into the market, as well as some gap funds, so business is definitely starting to pickup.

Kingsley Marshall: How different are these new financiers from their predecessors, if at all?

JEFF STEELE: The new financiers (both equity and debt) are so far proving to be more sophisticated and informed than their predecessors — they are either drawing from their own prior experiences or utilizing finance advisors to back them up. They demand more transparency in their deals (which is great for everybody), they’re more interested in partnering with other similar financiers (instead of trying to be the sole debt financier or equity investor), they’re generally not interested in financing 100% of the pictures, and they’re insisting on utilizing production tax credits.

Kingsley Marshall: You have discussed that traditional financiers tended to fund commercial and unchallenging films. My piece is about the rise of challenging independent film in times of change (60s/70s/recently). What effect do you think on movies does the source of the money have?

JEFF STEELE: So much of indie film financing is predicated on pre-selling international territories to buyers and distributors, that those buyers have become a de facto voice in the development of indie films.  However, this is not necessarily a bad thing because (contrary to popular opinion) the #1 criteria for pre-buying a film these days is the script.  If the story is not on the page, then they’re not interested in buying (unless it’s a slam dunk like Van Damme action flicks).  So in this sense, the buyers have become much more selective as to which films they’re going to put their credit-crunched deposits into.  This can be good news for challenging independent films that have great scripts, but might not be considered a “high-concept” sell (like The Hurt Locker).  If a producer is going to take on a challenging film, then they should strongly consider attaching a director that has a successful track record of delivering compelling or mainstream films.

Kingsley Marshall: Do you think these factors are always inherently linked?

JEFF STEELE: Financiers aren’t interested in taking a backseat in the development process, and nor should they be expected to.  They’re not interested in taking the lead either, but they do expect to have a meaningful voice in the packaging of the creative and financial elements.  It is their investment, after all.  There is nothing more tedious (or litigious) than dumb money.

Kingsley Marshall: Do you think the success of challenging films such as Precious and The Hurt Locker will draw more adventurous financiers to film?

JEFF STEELE: Precious, Hurt Locker, District 9, and Paranormal Activity are all good for the independent film business.  They remind potential financiers that audiences will turn out if you give them something interesting and challenging.  However, I would not recommend using them in your film’s business plan because that level of success is so remote.  Success is relative, so managing your financiers’ expectations from Day 1 is essential to a productive relationship.

Kingsley Marshall: What are the differences in risk between studio funded and independently financed film? Is there a sense of the inmates taking over the asylum?

JEFF STEELE: Most studios are focusing their attention on blockbuster and franchise films (bet big, win big, market your audience into submission); this is a wholly different model than indies.  Indies, if financed properly, can stand a reasonbly good chance of turning a profit, but it takes a lot of discipline and determination.  Studios have output deals with international distributors that guarantee a level of return based on box office performance.  Indies are just trying to get their equity investors paid back with maybe a 20% premium and some back end, so that they’ll reinvest in the producer’s next project.

Kingsley Marshall: How common are angel investors?

JEFF STEELE: “Angel Investor” is a term not generally used in film financing.  If a producer can find somebody to pay for their script development, then I suppose that’s a form of angel.  Somebody who funds pre-production is generally perceived as either an equity investor or a bridge lender. An “Angel” is generally the third stage in the fund raising lifecycle of a startup: Bootstrap, Friends/Family, Angel, Series A, Series B, IPO/Acquisition.

11 Responses leave one →
  1. Curran Engel permalink
    April 21, 2010

    Hello Jeff:)

    This should prove to be a very interesting article. I would expand on the notion of “dumb money”. I think most filmmakers assume that an investor should give them money and then get out of the way. This conflict exists in commercial and music video production as well. But it is one of the biggest barriers to funding a film. Why would a filmmaker what an investor to be “active”? What assets can an investor bring to the filmmaking process?

    Keep up the great work:)

    Curran G. Engel
    Executive Producer
    and
    Senior Portfolio Instructor/Academy of Art University

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Jeff Steele permalink
      April 28, 2010

      An investor can bring some principled business acumen into the relationship, which some (but not all) producers lack but would never admit it.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  2. BenL permalink
    April 21, 2010

    Jeff – Great post. I definitely enjoyed it. In response to your banner question, I would like to know more about the “new financiers”. Can you elaborate on what makes them different, where are they coming from, and what kinds of projects are attractive to them?
    Thanks!
    Ben

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Jeff Steele permalink
      April 28, 2010

      Many new financiers already got burned (but not deterred) by this recent financing frenzy. They now come at knowing what questions to ask and demanding greater transparency. They’re also more keyed into the demands of the foreign market, so they’re looking for safer, more commercial projects, like action, thrillers, etc.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  3. April 21, 2010

    Marketing platform. Indie or Studio. Best way to protect your investor. Otherwise, you’re looking at a world of struggle. From script thru financing thru production thru distribution. Unless your money doesn’t care a whole lot about turning a profit, or, will be satisfied with something marginal on the financial side of things.

    Or maybe they won’t be in it for the money. Maybe they just want to make a film that will satisfy a creative and/or issue-driven urge. If so, there’s still a chance they’ll get lucky at the box office, but, the odds are drastically reduced.

    Of course, there are always exceptions. To use an example from the 60s, Easy Rider. I believe Jack and Dennis, or the studio, weren’t even sure what kind of film it was going to be until they made it. They just wanted to make it. And look what fell into their laps.
    History.

    Like Jeff said, the money’s out there. It’s simply more transparent. Which is better. Smart money is by far more desirable than dumb money (to quote Jeff again).

    Indie films will still get made. Just know clearly what you are offering before you talk to investors. This way you are truly prepared for what lies ahead.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  4. May 5, 2010

    After a two year cycle, a feature I produced in Louisiana went down flames due to in-fighting amongst key talent and the EP.

    I took a shot at an interesting story/concept and though I was paid my guarantees, it’ll never see the light of day.

    Disappointing professionally for me, in not seeing a project released but, my lawyers were happy for the work.

    Root cause of my dissappointment?

    “Dumb money.”

    Lesson learned.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    GD Star Rating
    loading...

Trackbacks and Pingbacks

  1. UK Film Finance Mag Interview « Jeff Steele's Film Closings | credit crunch smile.com
  2. uberVU - social comments
  3. Financial Services UK » UK Film Finance Mag Interview « Jeff Steele's Film Closings
  4. Deconstructed » Blog Archive » Movie Financing - Making good use of the things that we find
  5. Tweets that mention UK Film Finance Mag Interview | Jeff Steele's Film Closings -- Topsy.com

Leave a Reply

Note: You can use basic XHTML in your comments. Your email address will never be published.

Subscribe to this comment feed via RSS