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		<title>By: Juri Koll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juri Koll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advice, and well taken. Putting my running shoes on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advice, and well taken. Putting my running shoes on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: steelejeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>steelejeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andy, thank you for sharing your cautionary tale.  You are absolutely correct, in that you must be the entrepreneur and the attorney is the legal counsel: they&#039;re roll is to advise, not to consent.
Henry C. Krasnow wrote a good how-to book on the subject called:

&quot;Your Lawyer: An Owner&#039;s Manual: A Business Owner&#039;s Guide to Managing Your Lawyer&quot;
http://www.amazon.com/Your-Lawyer-Business-Managing-AgatePro/dp/1932841121

it&#039;s a good read for anybody who intends to hire a lawyer at some point (which means everybody), and wants to avoid these sorts of pitfalls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andy, thank you for sharing your cautionary tale.  You are absolutely correct, in that you must be the entrepreneur and the attorney is the legal counsel: they&#8217;re roll is to advise, not to consent.<br />
Henry C. Krasnow wrote a good how-to book on the subject called:</p>
<p>&#8220;Your Lawyer: An Owner&#8217;s Manual: A Business Owner&#8217;s Guide to Managing Your Lawyer&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Your-Lawyer-Business-Managing-AgatePro/dp/1932841121" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Your-Lawyer-Business-Managing-AgatePro/dp/1932841121</a></p>
<p>it&#8217;s a good read for anybody who intends to hire a lawyer at some point (which means everybody), and wants to avoid these sorts of pitfalls.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just happened to me. My lender didn&#039;t consider my lawyer &quot;A Closer&quot; and I was actually charged with a higher deposit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just happened to me. My lender didn&#8217;t consider my lawyer &#8220;A Closer&#8221; and I was actually charged with a higher deposit.</p>
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		<title>By: R.Much</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.Much</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t as long as Andy&#039;s comment. But, I made the mistake of having my production lawyer try to close my financing and I ended up losing the lender I was working with over it. I had to learn this mistake for myself. The sad thing is I was never able to find another lender. That was my one shot at getting my film financed and my lawyer blew it over a couple of measly negotiating points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t as long as Andy&#8217;s comment. But, I made the mistake of having my production lawyer try to close my financing and I ended up losing the lender I was working with over it. I had to learn this mistake for myself. The sad thing is I was never able to find another lender. That was my one shot at getting my film financed and my lawyer blew it over a couple of measly negotiating points.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Halmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Halmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice, Jeff, but you can add some to this.  When dealing with lawyers, always remember that YOU are paying their bills and YOU are in charge.  Frequently remind them of this, too.  You need to make the business decisions. They check the legal feasibility.

I once found myself in conflict with a young lawyer who had just hung up his shingle and who offered to work for me on spec since he felt I had a very viable project in real estate. He expected that I would get the project off the ground at which time he would bill the company heavily to make up for the risk he took at the outset.  I was negotiating with a colonial government exclusive development rights for a 1,500 acre  Crown Land island in the Turks &amp; Caicos Islands.

I planned to develop only 150 acres but wanted to be sure I kept environmental control over the whole island so that I could assure prospective buyers that their grandchildren would enjoy the same unspoiled nature.

Before bringing in this lawyer I had foolishly asked for first refusal on the rest of the land. The lawyer pointed out, rightly, that this could cost me dearly later on since my development would inflate the value of the rest of the land which I might later be forced to buy at high prices to keep others out.

Wisely, he suggested we include in the agreement a negative covenant, simply that the government would require the company&#039;s permission before they sold any additional crown land.  Since I wanted to invest in some infrastructure in the rest of the island anyway, I suggested that for this change we offer them a fixed amount to be invested in this infrastructure (which hadn&#039;t been mentioned before)  which would be of benefit to the small, existing community as well.

The young lawyer was adamant.  He didn&#039;t want to offer them anything.  We argued.  But the most important point of disagreement  between us was the agreement itself.

 I DID NOT WANT AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE.  To me these are toilet paper.  I made it clear to him that I don&#039;t want to leave the island without a signed sealed agreement, even if only one or two pages. Richard, the lawyer came in with a 12 page agreement in principle. We argued more.

Then at one point I began to feel that I was being unreasonable with him.  I had spent years in advertising where clients who were amateurs in advertising and who had no clue would tell me, the professional, how to do their advertising. Here, this lawyer who was doing it all on spec. Perhaps  I should  give him  more free rein, I thought.

Well, the government had their land officer, an elderly, retired,  British judge, negotiate with us.  Richard pulled the wool over his eyes in his presentation.   The judge agreed to it all without properly understanding that they would give up rights to the balance of the land on the island for no additional compensation.  But it was all on toilet paper - an agreement in principle.

A couple of weeks later I got a wire from a new friend, the editor of the Conch News, the islands&#039; only paper at the time.  There had been a secret State Council meeting and they&#039;d made a deal with a Texas oil group to sell off 600 acres of my 1,500 acre island for a $75 million oil refinery. This was in 1970 dollars.  Oil refineries stink. An oil spill could ruin the whole effing chain of islands, not just ours.

I contacted the islands&#039; governor who took the position that we had an agreement that they couldn&#039;t hold us to thus we couldn&#039;t expect to hold them to it.

I was right in the first place, the lawyer was wrong and I was then wrong to let him have his way.  In dealing with lawyers in any field, it is important to know what you are doing and then  have the lawyers make sure it is legal.

My lawyer, on his own, wrote to the governor rattling his saber which only had them digging in their heels some more.

Later I wrote the governor saying, &quot;It seems we were making much better progress before I introduced my former lawyer.&quot;  That opened up negotiations again but by this time, the damage had been done, friendliness had been lost in the relationship,  I had lost my investors and finally my zest -  and so I closed the chapter.

There is an old line about &quot;What is a film producer?&quot;
The answer: &quot;A guy with a telephone who knows what he is doing.&quot;

If you want to be a real film producer, you need to educate yourself in all elements of production. Funding is one of the most important elements.  When you know what you are doing, then you&#039;ll know when to appreciate your lawyer and when to kick him in the ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice, Jeff, but you can add some to this.  When dealing with lawyers, always remember that YOU are paying their bills and YOU are in charge.  Frequently remind them of this, too.  You need to make the business decisions. They check the legal feasibility.</p>
<p>I once found myself in conflict with a young lawyer who had just hung up his shingle and who offered to work for me on spec since he felt I had a very viable project in real estate. He expected that I would get the project off the ground at which time he would bill the company heavily to make up for the risk he took at the outset.  I was negotiating with a colonial government exclusive development rights for a 1,500 acre  Crown Land island in the Turks &amp; Caicos Islands.</p>
<p>I planned to develop only 150 acres but wanted to be sure I kept environmental control over the whole island so that I could assure prospective buyers that their grandchildren would enjoy the same unspoiled nature.</p>
<p>Before bringing in this lawyer I had foolishly asked for first refusal on the rest of the land. The lawyer pointed out, rightly, that this could cost me dearly later on since my development would inflate the value of the rest of the land which I might later be forced to buy at high prices to keep others out.</p>
<p>Wisely, he suggested we include in the agreement a negative covenant, simply that the government would require the company&#8217;s permission before they sold any additional crown land.  Since I wanted to invest in some infrastructure in the rest of the island anyway, I suggested that for this change we offer them a fixed amount to be invested in this infrastructure (which hadn&#8217;t been mentioned before)  which would be of benefit to the small, existing community as well.</p>
<p>The young lawyer was adamant.  He didn&#8217;t want to offer them anything.  We argued.  But the most important point of disagreement  between us was the agreement itself.</p>
<p> I DID NOT WANT AN AGREEMENT IN PRINCIPLE.  To me these are toilet paper.  I made it clear to him that I don&#8217;t want to leave the island without a signed sealed agreement, even if only one or two pages. Richard, the lawyer came in with a 12 page agreement in principle. We argued more.</p>
<p>Then at one point I began to feel that I was being unreasonable with him.  I had spent years in advertising where clients who were amateurs in advertising and who had no clue would tell me, the professional, how to do their advertising. Here, this lawyer who was doing it all on spec. Perhaps  I should  give him  more free rein, I thought.</p>
<p>Well, the government had their land officer, an elderly, retired,  British judge, negotiate with us.  Richard pulled the wool over his eyes in his presentation.   The judge agreed to it all without properly understanding that they would give up rights to the balance of the land on the island for no additional compensation.  But it was all on toilet paper &#8211; an agreement in principle.</p>
<p>A couple of weeks later I got a wire from a new friend, the editor of the Conch News, the islands&#8217; only paper at the time.  There had been a secret State Council meeting and they&#8217;d made a deal with a Texas oil group to sell off 600 acres of my 1,500 acre island for a $75 million oil refinery. This was in 1970 dollars.  Oil refineries stink. An oil spill could ruin the whole effing chain of islands, not just ours.</p>
<p>I contacted the islands&#8217; governor who took the position that we had an agreement that they couldn&#8217;t hold us to thus we couldn&#8217;t expect to hold them to it.</p>
<p>I was right in the first place, the lawyer was wrong and I was then wrong to let him have his way.  In dealing with lawyers in any field, it is important to know what you are doing and then  have the lawyers make sure it is legal.</p>
<p>My lawyer, on his own, wrote to the governor rattling his saber which only had them digging in their heels some more.</p>
<p>Later I wrote the governor saying, &#8220;It seems we were making much better progress before I introduced my former lawyer.&#8221;  That opened up negotiations again but by this time, the damage had been done, friendliness had been lost in the relationship,  I had lost my investors and finally my zest &#8211;  and so I closed the chapter.</p>
<p>There is an old line about &#8220;What is a film producer?&#8221;<br />
The answer: &#8220;A guy with a telephone who knows what he is doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you want to be a real film producer, you need to educate yourself in all elements of production. Funding is one of the most important elements.  When you know what you are doing, then you&#8217;ll know when to appreciate your lawyer and when to kick him in the ass.</p>
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